Will the 2010 Camaro be in SSB next year?

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   I'd like to run the V6. The 4th generation is currently eligible. Any progress?

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Dauntless Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: August.04.2009 Location: SoCal Points: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dauntless Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Will the 2010 Camaro be in SSB next year? Posted: August.04.2009 at 9:33pm
	I'd like to run the V6. The 4th generation is currently eligible. Any progress?
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PaulG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: April.28.2004 Points: 36	Post Options Post Reply Quote PaulG Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: August.05.2009 at 8:22am
	The spec line in the GCR allows the cars from '96 to '02. Unless someone is submitting a request (including the VTS sheet), it won't happen automatically. A quick call to SCCA Technical Services may tell you if someone else has submitted a request already. If you are not familiar with the process, it can be found at: Cars and Rules Hope that helps Edited by PaulG

Dauntless Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: August.04.2009 Location: SoCal Points: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dauntless Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: August.06.2009 at 4:49pm
	Actually, that helps MUCH, thank you. I wish they'd given me that link when I first inquired a few months ago. They did remark that someone had to get that VTS, so I went to work on it. But witout that form, anyone I tried to talk to connected to Chevrolet was stumped. If anyone knows just how this information is obtained from the manufacturer, I'd like to know. (Block material, I somehow know 'Grey Iron' won't suffice as an answer.) The July Fastrack mentions adding the 2010 to page 264 per GT1, that's a bit pricey for me. I'd be happy to be the one making SSB possible. I suppose I could work on AS while I'm at it. If anyone can do any further pointing in the right direction I'd appreciate it.
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PaulG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: April.28.2004 Points: 36	Post Options Post Reply Quote PaulG Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: August.06.2009 at 5:04pm
	Just a thought but there are several SCCA-savvy Chevy dealers who'd be glad to help with the VTS since you'd be in the market to buy a Camaro or parts, etc. The basic form is easy - but when you look at your HP/Tq/Weight numbers you will want to compare the Camaro to other front-running SSB cars and ask for certain "adjustments" up front to make it competitive. Superior Chevrolet is one dealer in Midwest (closer to SoCal) who works with SCCA racers a lot. If you want the car prepped for you and distance isn't an object, you can't go wrong with Phoenix Performance - although they are in PA, they race Camaro's in SSB now and have a long-standing "connection" with Chevy through past Performance Division employees. Their ads are prominent on SCCAForums.com - a good place to network with other SSB/SSC/Touring drivers, too. You might toss your intentions out there on that forum to see who else is interested - more driver support is helpful in getting your desired car classified quicker.

Dauntless Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: August.04.2009 Location: SoCal Points: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dauntless Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: August.06.2009 at 8:23pm
	Actually I have been in contact with Phoenix in recent months, even if they are 3,000 miles away my car might come from them. I'll also need a daily driver local. The latest from the dealer is that they're to call back mid September about a manual. But oops, they need one today. And they were stumped again by 'Requested information is contained in each vehicle's MVMA/AAMA.' I'm assuming this will be publications from the manufacturer's associations, but don't know for sure, or how I'd get them if that's it. Neither idd the dealer. So is there an SCCA savvy dealer in SoCal?
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paulgauzens Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: September.26.2004 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Points: 14	Post Options Post Reply Quote paulgauzens Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: August.06.2009 at 8:34pm
	I dunno abt SoCal - but that is a good question for the SCCAForum.com SSB/SSC thread and the Touring thread. The MVMA won't have everything like valve lift, angle and size. If anyone could help it would be Phoenix if they have a manual already - otherwise buy one since you'd need it anyway.
	*PaulG*

Dauntless Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: August.04.2009 Location: SoCal Points: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dauntless Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: August.09.2009 at 5:07pm
	NOBODY has a manual, Chevrolet says don't talk to them about it until Mid September. I have an account to SCCAForums, but as usual it's not letting me log in, and the request to the board hasn't been answered yet. And I received an EMail suggesting that the Camaro will never make it into SSB, and is on its' way to T3. Just how much more expensive is T3 than SSB? Edited by Dauntless
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PaulG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: April.28.2004 Points: 36	Post Options Post Reply Quote PaulG Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: August.09.2009 at 8:34pm
	The T3 vs. SSB cost basis is really not about the classification itself, but about the competitive adjustments the CRB may give you. That's an upfront cost + the cage and other work is same cost regardless of class. On an ongoing basis, your recurring racing costs are the same regardless of class: Tires, spares, Prep, etc. To be at the front row in either class can be expensive - but to have a competitive car shouldn't be a major difference.

Dauntless Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: August.04.2009 Location: SoCal Points: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dauntless Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: August.13.2009 at 2:43pm
	Oh, bu it IS about the cost. Especially since T3 is on shaky ground. Spend more, then get lumped into a FASTER class. (Groan) Uncertainty. It makes everything so. . .UNCERTAIN!
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